Comments on: All Customer Service Is Subject to the Abuse Exception https://customersthatstick.com/blog/all-customer-service-is-subject-to-the-abuse-exception/ You can have the best customer experience in your industry Fri, 04 Jul 2025 13:06:48 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.1 By: Elaine https://customersthatstick.com/blog/all-customer-service-is-subject-to-the-abuse-exception/#comment-255523 Thu, 21 Oct 2021 22:39:53 +0000 http://customersthatstick.com/?p=4701#comment-255523 No, our job shouldn’t entail being forced to take crap. All customer service jobs qualify as human rights abuse. Nobody should have to put up with the ridiculous crap that customer service reps deal with on a daily basis.

I don’t care if they’re angry and I don’t care if their anger is legitimate. It should be a CRIME to be angry with a customer service rep. It’s not their fault your crap is broken/got lost/whatever. I shouldn’t have to sacrifice my mental health for a bunch of stupid angry Karens who can’t keep themselves under control.

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By: MK https://customersthatstick.com/blog/all-customer-service-is-subject-to-the-abuse-exception/#comment-189191 Wed, 01 Nov 2017 21:22:23 +0000 http://customersthatstick.com/?p=4701#comment-189191 I was looking up ‘what is an abusive customer’ because yesterday I was called abusive although I did not get angry, did not call anyone names, or threaten anyone. In fact, I was quite jovial and was actually trying to diffuse a situation involving the angry customer in front of me. I was waiting in line at the customer service desk of a large conglomerate department store to pick up some money from Western Union. The line was long as it was when i joined it – at least fifteen people. There was only one customer service rep at the second cash and one on and off at the first cash. I made a point to ask the girl at the first cash if her WU was up before I joined the line because last time I waited quite a while only to find out it was down. She confirmed it was working. After about ten minutes of waiting and only three people served, the lady in front of me commented on how the customer service guy on cash two was really slow and how there are at least six people behind the counter just chatting. I kind of joked that he looked like the bionic man in slow motion. Which he did. He really was moving slowly, if you can imagine. I didn’t say it loudly enough for him to hear, it was only loud enough for the lady in front of me and apparently the lady behind me. After that, the lady behind us started reprimanding us for making fun of him. I pointed out to her that one has to admit that he is unusually slow in his movements. She got even more irate and started yelling ‘What if someone made fun of you at your job?’ and ‘What if someone accused you of being slow.?’ She started dropping the f bomb and kept going on and on until finally her own daughter told her to calm down. I got to the front, but the girl at cash one told me her WU wasn’t working and that I’d have to go to the ‘slow man’. Remember, about thirty minutes before she had just told me her WU was working. At the same time, the irate lady behind me was complaining about me to them. So that’s how they got their information – not from hearing me, but from what she told them. Then, when I tried to defend myself by saying ‘You gotta admit he is rather slow’. They all got angry at me and said I was being offensive and gave me back my passport and WU form and that they weren’t serving me and told me to leave. While I was going, supervisor yelled out ‘Take your passport somewhere else’. So, I went over to the optometrist who seemed the most educated and fair person there, explained the situation as best that I could and asked for a store manager. She brought me back to the same customer service desk and asked them to contact the manager so I could talk to them. Well, once she left, they called an assistant manager and without letting me speak to her, told her only their side of the story. Which was that I was being verbally abusive to the customer service rep along with some other ‘creative’ details. She hung up and I never did let me speak with the assistant manager on the other end about my complaint. What bothers me is that the lady in front of me was much more angry and the lady behind me was much more abusive and that the story this woman just told to the assistant manager was completely false and based on the exaggerations of the lady behind me. I barely talked to customer service rep, save saying we had been waiting a while and, even though there were six customer reps behind the counter, it still took almost a half an hour for me to get to the counter. But again, I was polite and didn’t use profanity like the other two ladies involved, nor was I angry. I just happened to get the brunt of their anger. At one point there was eight of them scolding me. It was incredible. I was humiliated and, by that time, upset because I wasted at least thirty minutes in line, then got turned away only because I was pointing out that their service wasn’t up to par. What’s wrong with that?
Here’s the thing, I rarely ever complain. I am not sure why all this happened. Why didn’t they just say, ‘I’m sorry you had to wait so long’. Right now, I feel like crying thinking back to how humiliated I felt. I’ve never had another customer berate me like that, then the customer service join in. Did she work there also and she was defending him? Was I completely out of line? Excuse the pun.
It occurred to me to write head office. But, given the reputation of the company, I doubt I’d get an apology.
Any suggestions on how to voice my complaints about the time in line and the way my initial complaint was handled?

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By: Adam Toporek https://customersthatstick.com/blog/all-customer-service-is-subject-to-the-abuse-exception/#comment-1903 Tue, 16 Oct 2012 10:52:25 +0000 http://customersthatstick.com/?p=4701#comment-1903 In reply to Ralph.

Thanks for adding that Ralph.

Recognizing the signs ahead of time is the key in so many areas of business (hiring, customer service, and so on). If we could just learn to get that right every time… well, people can dream, can’t they? 🙂

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By: Ralph https://customersthatstick.com/blog/all-customer-service-is-subject-to-the-abuse-exception/#comment-1902 Tue, 16 Oct 2012 10:08:38 +0000 http://customersthatstick.com/?p=4701#comment-1902 In reply to Adam Toporek.

Thanks Adam, in these types of contracts there is an out for the client via a non-performance clause. A consultant can get out as well but try and get work in the same industry again after that. Unfortunately you have to tough it out.

Simply learning how to manage that type of relationship helps and recognizing the signs before you engage in the first place is a hugely valuable lesson learned. It has certainly helped me in my current gig.

Hey, what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger. I appreciate the response and opportunity to share this story.

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By: Adam Toporek https://customersthatstick.com/blog/all-customer-service-is-subject-to-the-abuse-exception/#comment-1897 Tue, 16 Oct 2012 00:12:06 +0000 http://customersthatstick.com/?p=4701#comment-1897 In reply to Ralph.

Hey Ralph,

Thanks for the excellent comment! One thing that stands out about your story is that there are situations when you can’t fire the customer — such as a service contract. I’m curious — was one of the lessons learned to leave yourself some outs contractually for situations like this?

Some people are just bullies, abusive by nature. To your point, they are thankfully a small minority. There is also another sliver who are abusive out of calculation, which seems like your situation. In some ways, they are worse because they can help themselves.

I always like to think I can turn it around with a customer, but when you can’t, fulfill your basic obligations and focus on those who treat you and your team with respect.

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By: Ralph https://customersthatstick.com/blog/all-customer-service-is-subject-to-the-abuse-exception/#comment-1892 Mon, 15 Oct 2012 10:23:37 +0000 http://customersthatstick.com/?p=4701#comment-1892 Hey Adam, the architecture industry is fraught with unreasonable clients. The end of projects, the close out phase, is a difficult time. Most consultants have moved on to their next shiny object and clients invariably feel left out in the cold. Not every time but often so we deal with irate (frustrated) clients on occasion in that way.

The question for me is how did it get there in the first place? Some people are just abusive by nature but not many. To get to a point of frustration that a threat is the only course of action is astounding and giving in at that point is near impossible.

I have had a client that was abusive unilaterally. Their attitude was to keep their consultant’s on edge at all times. It was a performance tactic (carrots and sticks) that didn’t work well. I had to endure it for 3 years (service contract) and it got progressively worse over time. I admit that I didn’t handle the abusive attitudes well and simply stuck to the contractual obligation and nothing more. There was not much we could do beyond that. We would have loved to fire them but alas could not. I personally learned a lot about customer service from that experience and can now be much more proactive when I see the tables start to turn.

I guess what I am saying is that as consultants we need to recognize the signs and address the issues early. I know in certain business situations (i.e. retail) that may not always be possible.

Thanks for the great post.

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By: Adam Toporek https://customersthatstick.com/blog/all-customer-service-is-subject-to-the-abuse-exception/#comment-1891 Mon, 15 Oct 2012 10:15:08 +0000 http://customersthatstick.com/?p=4701#comment-1891 In reply to Tim Bonner.

Hi Tim,

I think I know that guy. 🙂 There is a line that some customers cross not just with you or your organization but within themselves. Resolution and reconciliation are no longer possible — they want the company to pay, to be humbled but only in the way that satisfies them. You can try every customer service technique in the book — some people are just beyond recovery.

Like you said “ride the waves” and move on. Sometimes it is the only solution.

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By: Tim Bonner https://customersthatstick.com/blog/all-customer-service-is-subject-to-the-abuse-exception/#comment-1890 Sun, 14 Oct 2012 13:34:16 +0000 http://customersthatstick.com/?p=4701#comment-1890 Hi Adam

I’ve dealt with a few abusive customer service complaints in my time and they’re certainly not pleasant!

The last one I dealt with before I left employment stands out in my mind as he just couldn’t be reasoned with.

Even when the pension scheme were going to cover any financial loss to him plus expenses, he was determined he was going to carry on the complaint and take it to the financial ombudsman. It wasn’t even the pension scheme’s fault but another provider that the person held a separate investment with.

With these kind of customers I think you just have to mark it down as experience, try and ride the waves, minimise any fall out and move on. No point in taking things personally.

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By: Adam Toporek https://customersthatstick.com/blog/all-customer-service-is-subject-to-the-abuse-exception/#comment-1889 Fri, 12 Oct 2012 20:51:30 +0000 http://customersthatstick.com/?p=4701#comment-1889 In reply to Barrett Rossie.

Thanks Barrett. The profile was quite a nice Friday surprise!

Sorry to hear about your wife’s experience. It’s really tough when a culture like that is allowed to take hold. Retail is as challenging as it gets in customer service, but most of the time abusive customers are a tiny fraction of what you have to deal with. When they are allowed to run roughshod over the team and the business, it tends to never end. That is why even the best customer service organizations draw lines and set limits.

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By: Barrett Rossie https://customersthatstick.com/blog/all-customer-service-is-subject-to-the-abuse-exception/#comment-1888 Fri, 12 Oct 2012 18:31:22 +0000 http://customersthatstick.com/?p=4701#comment-1888 Adam, this is exactly why my wife quit her job at [Nationally Famous Fashion Retailer With Famous Return Policy]. She was a former manager in a large city, and moved to our smaller city. She wanted a less stressful job, so she took a job with the same company, but limited hours as a cashier. They put her in the ladies shoes department, through which most of the store’s sales and profits flowed.

The customers were unreasonable and abusive. They were literally stealing by buying $400 shoes, wearing them for a year, then returning them to get the refund, and new shoes.

So the sales people were losing their commissions and the store wasn’t meeting its goals. Everyone was pressured to sell harder. Stress all around. If corporate and stor management had stood behind the employees, it would have served everyone better.

Hey, nice profile on Spin Sucks! 🙂

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